NOTES AND THOUGHTS -- TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH FRIEND - 5/14/2000 evening. (These are mostly quotes from my friend.) ------------------ There is so much to learn from other people. It is especially draining when someone is in the hospital. I think I helped them, but it drained me quite a bit. It is quite revealing. The room is just filled. My goodness, all these people in this hospital, all broken down. A lot of that could be avoided by the care of their body. They are forgetting, the body itself is like a vehicle, it must be maintained. Therefore you have complicated complications. There are some people that take care of themselves. The body should be cared for; next to that ... spirituality. This man who spoke [on Schuller's program this morning] was a very accomplished psychologist. Wrote a book, "The Paradox." It was subtitled: "Spiritual hunger in the age of Plenty." Isn't that an interesting statement? And it's true; we do have plenty, and many people are spiritually hungry. Was on Schuller's program today. I think a lot of people are not nurtured. They go to church, for many many reasons, to fill up space. They do that for years, like a machine, they go through all the motion week after week, and nothing happens. What I am trying to say, if one goes to church to do spiritual learning, they will gradually grow. Their nature enlarges itself. The other thing is, with people. Most people, or many, are followers. Not leaders. They also are robots, and are not thinkers. Many, many. Most of the things -- what they do, they don't think. And they don't want to think. I think this is why the church itself is not growing. This is why you are going to find many are people are dissatisfied (with the church). People must themselves do the work, so the soul itself will rise like a dove, to have the nature to light other people's lives. People need in one another "support." Spiritual support: The strength that binds and keeps people together. ------ I go to Quick Trip - I give them a word of wisdom. People listen, they will laugh, but they will listen. They will say, "I never thought of it that way." ------ If you want to shock your friends ... they complain and gripe. You tell them, "You enjoy every bit of your suffering." We discussed "Addiction to Misery," "Obsession," adds my friend. "Be- ware of he word 'obsession'. It is a very deep, powerful word." Also, Illusion. You will see quite a circular activity. The illusion is quite something. Delusion ... and working with that, is fantasy. "Don't mix reality with fantasy. Don't get me wrong. There is a place for fantasy. But be careful."